Secret Jobs: Infiltrating Industry Communities

Today is the start of a new feature on the ResumeBucket Blog, the Secret Jobs series.
For anyone that has been out of work and looking for a decent amount of time it may feel like you’ve exhausted all avenues for looking for work. You’ve searched every job board, asked all of your friends if they know of openings, and spent hours perfecting your ResumeBucket and LinkedIn profiles.
But in times like these, a little creativity goes a long way. And it is in that spirit that this series will explain some secretive and less well-known techniques that we’ve seen people use to help them in their job search.
Finding where your industry hangs out
This week’s entry for Secret Jobs involves online communities and how forming meaningful relationships online can earn you unpublished job leads and unusual industry insight.
The first thing we need to do though is find where people from your industry are hanging out. And this might be the most difficult part of the process.
I can’t show examples from every industry under the sun, but I’ve chosen a couple that I think are general enough to give you ideas for your own industry search; marketing and sales.
Marketing is a pretty broad moniker, but let’s keep our prospects open; if you are looking for a job in online marketing wouldn’t you also be interested in a position for print marketing too? Sales is a similar industry, experience in any form of sales usually transfers pretty well to other types of sales.
The first place to search is Reddit. It is most commonly known as a place to share links, but Reddit is also arguably the largest online community. Within the site there are also sub-communities that can sometimes serve as the largest community for some career industries.
First, see if your industry has its own sub-Reddit, example:
http://www.reddit.com/r/marketing
http://www.reddit.com/r/sales
Marketing has a 2,000 member strong community on Reddit. However, with the sales sub-Reddit’s last submission over a month ago it would appear as if this community is no longer active.
If you do find a populated sub-Reddit you can begin to interact here and get to know the members. Make sure you become VERY familiar with the rules of the community and lurk a bit before you jump in. But once you learn the ropes send messages to active members, submit questions, and add to the conversation.
Reddit also has a couple of communities that are geared specifically for helping people find work. Once again, get a feel for how the community works before jumping into the conversation. But even if you just check these once a day you could find positions not found anywhere else.
http://www.reddit.com/r/jobs
http://www.reddit.com/r/forhire
http://www.reddit.com/r/work
If you don’t have an account with Twitter, get one now. I’m not asking you to share with the world every mundane detail of your life, but look at it like another online job profile you need to create.
Once you have a profile complete with photo, bio, and location you can start finding people to follow. Using the search function you want to look for people who are talking about things in your industry. If there are current events happening in your industry, I would start by searching for these. People who are discussion such recent events will probably be the most active in your industry on Twitter.
Once you have followed them keep an eye on their tweets, check your timeline a few times a day. If you find something particularly interesting send them an @ reply with your own insight. The goal is to form online friendships so down the road you could potentially ask them about any openings they know of.
And don’t forget to tweet yourself. Make your tweets applicable to your industry; share news stories, comment about recent trends, etc. When they see you are following them, you want them to see a fellow industry professional with plenty to share.
Of course you can always find industry communities using the world’s most popular search engine. I decided to start with Reddit and Twitter because Google can often be filled with clutter.
But if you search using some of the following queries you might just get lucky (replace Industry with your own industry).
Industry forum
Industry community
Industry Meet-up
Industry organization
Putting in work
Now that you have a target community the next step is to become one of them.
You shouldn’t exactly go into this community thinking you are infiltrating them just to find a job. Even if you successfully find employment through the community, these are still places you should want to continue participating in.
With that in mind, participating in your community and making friends should be pretty straightforward. The big question is how long do you need to wait before asking if there are employment opportunities here. I think each community will be different and this is something you need to feel out on your own. But I would say a good starting number would be a month. Put in at least a month’s worth of relationship building before you ever bring up your self-interest.
The goal
Once you have made friends in your new community the optimal result is that they tell you about job opportunities unsolicited. But if this hasn’t happened, simply ask them in a very polite way if they know of any openings at the moment.
These communities are built to help each other and every encounter I have ever had with an online industry community has been a positive one. And once you do find a job, don’t forget to turn around and help someone else in the same way someone helped you.
Frankie Eybsen is the marketing manager for ResumeBucket. Frankie has worked in marketing, web design and development, and SEO. He maintains a large client list for both marketing jobs and production. You can send him an email at frankie@resumebucket.com. 
Comments
Jim Witt
I worked for the same company for 34 years.
On Feb 14, 2008, they told me they did not need me.
I have been looking for work for 2 years… and zero…
I have been in every thing you have suggested.
I am 58 with only a high school edu.
Rita
I have been out of work for 7 months and unable to get past the first step. I have been in my industry for 20 years, and because I don’t have a “degree” or “certification”, I can’t even get my resume read by anyone. Sad world when 20 years of hard work and experience can’t get you a job!!!!!
bob thomas
that makes me worry, i’ve been at a job 14 years ,supervisor then came up to me ,shook my hand ,said i was layed off ,that was 12/3/10 ,no work since,,14yrs of forklift exp.,an no work
Kim
In January of 2009 I was layed off. I still have not been able to find a job. I has become very frustrating because some of the jobs I have applied for I know I was in on the ground level(applied before too many other people have applied). I have visited some of those businesses after they opened and the employees that were hired at these jobs don’t seem to know squat about the job. I have also been told I am over qualified for most of the jobs I have applied for. I am a single parent with 3 children, one of which has mental health issues……HELP……..
Debbie Gardiner
I have been unemployed for three years I have submitted over 710 resumes and I have not had a single call back from any of them. I am and Administrataive Assistant, with H.R. experience and Office Manager Experience I would just like to go back to work full time. I do have a part time job.
Steve Cohen
Sorry to here that JIM WITT. I was in Purchasing for 20 years, I also 58. Layed off 4 years and
400 + resumes and NOTHING
Jule Barcal
I’m starting to think sending resumes via email and applying to jobs on job boards is the wrong way to go. I’ve been doing it too, but am frustrated beyond belief (sooo impersonal it all is) and am trying to think of a creative alternative. The posts I read above convince me a creative alternative is necessary.
Lisa Sculnick
Thank you for such an informative article. After two years of unemployment, it’s nice to see new avenues to persue.
Pat Brengman
Does any body have anything helpful or positive for those of us who have worked, now 55-60yrs, got desire and ability to work, but cannot find work?
Jule Barcal
Pat, I heard of a site called seniors4hire.org. I don’t know how effective it is, but they are supposed to deal with companies that want people over 55.
Shayna
For those of you who feel that you cannot get employment because you do not have a degree. Please do not be hard on yourself. People with degrees including myself are having the same difficulties. It’s a tough economy. Even if for example there are 100 jobs. There are 1000 people going after the same job.
Eugene Wagner
Hey gang, my employment was terminated in Feb 2011.I have 28 years experience in my field. I am looking for where my skills would be used. Then I look for the companies on line to see if they have an opening. I have had 7 interviews i’n 4 months.
Eugene Wagner
Don’t get discouraged, get up every morning early, get dressed for work and make job hunting your temporary occupation. Remember that for every job you don’t get, that is one step closer to the one you will land.
Julie Jackson
Jule,
Thanks for the info on Seniors4hire.org. I’m 59 and got downsized in 2007. I hit about 10 different job boards and get nothing for a response. It makes me wonder if those jobs are even legit.
Janet
I had hoped to be encouraged by reading all the comments, but we all seem to be in the same situation. I have a master’s degree in my field and have completed my doctoral courses. Yet, after being unemployed for eight months and hundreds of applications I have only had three interviews and no job offers. I’m praying for all of us right now!!!
Mike
I agree with Julie Jackson. I was laid off in April 2010 as the company decided to send all sales functions back to the home office in India. I, too, wonder if all these jobs are legit. I, too, have tried MANY of the suggestions for resumes that the “experts” suggest but still nothing. Not even any calls. Doesn’t seem like these social media sites (Twitter, Facebook, or LinkedIn) are doing much for me either.
Lavetta
dont fell bad gang I to have been out of work fo 3yrs also I have skill in various fields. I have five kids and trying to make enmeet useing the system and I’m tiered of having to use it because the want to know your whole life story. I have yet to find employment I put apps in online to in person an still yet to get a call back. Its a pitty for so many people such as ourself’ve with the skill an talent and nobody wants to step out on faith and give us a chance, we have to live and take care of our own too. But that’s how the world is cold and can care less about our people. They will allow us to starve an leave us for dead.
Tom Hansen
I was laid of August 2008. I am 65 years old and I can’t get an interview. I have had one telephone interview in 3 years.
Who says there is no age discrimination! BS . You know it isn’t going to get any better. I work as a construction superintendent 35 years. Good luck to all1
Sharon Fry
I read all the postings from people and want to comment on a few things.
1) The postings you see are required for most companies even if they already have an employee or applicant in mind for the job. I understand this but wish there were a way to bypass these so as not to waste my time.
2) Take a minute to look over all the postings with a critical eye and acknowledge that if all of these misspellings and incorrect writtings are happening in your coverletter or resume it may be a reason for them being overlooked. I do believe that some of these sites are viewed by perspective employers too.
3) We all just have to stay positive, keep in the game and remember that there are multiple people looking for the same jobs so we need to stay fresh and research ways that you can stand out infront of the other applicants.
Good luck to all. I’m still looking but refuse to give up.
subrosa
nobody owes you a job or a living. you may think you “deserve” a chance or that things are not “supposed” to be hard, but that subtle air of entitlement will get in your way. the reality is that it just is what it is. there’s no use complaining; do what you have to do, be useful, and yes, by all means, get creative! in life there are no guarantees, and no one but yourself owes you anything.
subrosa
that was mostly directed to Lavetta, as I do realize it’s tough out there. I’ve been unemployed 2+ years myself but have filled the time with volunteering and night classes, among other things like blogging and self-directed learning. the point is to not be passive or a victim, but instead do your research and think outside the box. we can’t all just post a resume on the job boards and wait for calls that never come. the way I see it, if you’re sending 710 resumes out with no response you’re probably not doing something right. think quality, not quantity—and diversify your funds, so to speak. don’t rely solely on the internet and don’t apply to advertised job openings alone. statistically, these are the least likely avenues for getting hired. understand that you need to get your face out there and meet people. volunteering or interning in your industry is one of the best ways to prove yourself to people who may be able to hire, refer or recommend you for a position in your chosen field. this has paid off for me many times. at worst, you will have something relevant with which to bridge the gap in your work history. so don’t let the absence of a paycheck dissuade you; it’s not really “unpaid” when you are earning something valuable to your career.
Faye
I’m 70, have been working with temporay companies for 3 years now. Have had 2 really good longterm jobs with big companies. I have just started doing Secret Shopper stuff, and will welcome the checks. I’ve been pretty busy. You might want to try it. Be careful, though, some of them have stiff monthly fees to work for them.
Julie Jackson
Since my last posting I took a sales job witth Colonial Life selling worksite benefits. It’s strictly comission and so far I have had one appointment that looks like I might actually get a check from……keeping my fingers crossed. Insurance sales is not where I truly want to be and it’s HARD work but it gets me out there to network with other companies. Who knows, it might open up another opportunity. They are looking for talented people with or without experience so give it a try or if you’d like to talk, send me an e-mail with your phone # and we can talk. I’d be happy to give anyone a referral if that helps.
Mike Wanas
I’m really tired of sending resume after resume and still not getting any response. First off I’m a seasoned professional that has many years and can adapt to any industry. I started my own business from my hoome garage and turned it into a 7.5 million dollar biz in 7 years! So with that being said I’ve sent out many resumes but found that most people reading it feel threatened. I don’t have a college degree and barely got out of high school but I know how to run a business and make money. I’ve started other businesses that were successful and now at 59 looking to help others. Why can’t certain people look past their nose! I’ve come to the point that I’ve even tried to down size my accomplishments just to get work!!! So here I am on that lonely road again looking to be a help or an asset to some one, but if not I think I allready know that I’ll have to start another business my self because that’s the only person I can count on and it’s ME!
P.S. I’m not only me!!!
Michelle Bastian
I have been in the medical since the later part of 1988 in different settings. I lost my job this year due to a work related injury and can no longer do the work that facility required me to. I lost my fulltime job March of this year and have not been able to find another fulltime job in my field of expertise or any other field that I would be able to do with my physical limitations from my injury. So to everybody out there it is rough and alot of people in my area are also out of jobs, but don’t give up and if you have religion/faith use and keep it, and good luck.
June Cano
@Debbie Gardiner: I tii have been laid off for almost 4 years now and am in the same field as you! I usewd to think over-qualified was a good thing? I have tried just about everything when it comes to applying, I’m sorry but I would think it would be easier even just to get a receptionist job? Not! We will find work!! Hang in there! My husband worked for the same company and they closed the doors so we have both been out of work since 2007!! I just keep praying!
Vance
I’ve been unemployed for close to a year now, and it is so frustrating. I apply to these places online, but I can’t seem to get my foot in the door.
Seems like in my part of the world, you have to either be a 20-year old college student, or a senior citizen in order to get hired any place. I’m going to school to finish my degree, but there just doesn’t seem to be any interest in my chosen line of work. I’ve looked at the work form home places, and while several are legit, they all want a nice starter fee to get you going. Eventually someone has to hire me, it’s just tough when there aren’t a lot of jobs. And as far as learning valuable lessons, and “earning something valuable to your career,” I’ll take a paycheck any day. Life lessons don’t feed my family.
Kenneth Passan
I’ve been out of work for a little over a year, put out 113 resumes, no job offers until recently, and that is a part time job with no benefits, but I am grateful and consider it a start. For those 55 years old or older, there might be an Easter Seals Senior Employment Services in your area. The one in my area was going to train me, with pay, for a job-even though not in my field. However, I just found out that all Easter Seals employment services are on hold indefinetly because the federal governrnent is now withholding all funding due to the federal budget crisis. So now, as I prepare to train for my part time job, I’ll still throw out resumes for a full-time job with bennies, even though I’m over 55. You have a chance of eventually getting a job if you keep trying. If you give up, you don’t stand a chance. Bottome line: despite the job crisis, this is not the time to throw in the towel.i
Tamika
To all, We have the same things in common. I can relate to pretty much everyone on this broad, myself i been out of work 2yrs now, I have signed up with agency and only work with one of them since January 2011. Not really sure what can you do, jobs, are listed online without address info, so we have no choice but to send via email, but really reading everyone here what is this world coming too. I would say; “God has a plan for me, so whatever your will, it will be done” I do hope something change around for us ALL!!!!!!! Good Luck!!!!!!!!
Paul
Can I help you find anything (Store’s), my web outlets have numberous store and give you a chance to buy that neccesity! Take care, from Paul L.
Steven Cruiser
If you have talent then age doesn’t matter.You can start your own business instead of working for any organization.
Leah
I am fifty plus years old with over 29 years experience in the architectural profession as an architect. Although my profession is experiencing a horrible recession, I have found that it’s easier to get a contract than a job. I architects as clients. With regard to age discrimination; being older is a benefit if you’re an independent contractor. The gray hairs of experience become a plus.